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I have this vid idea I keep noodling with, for much farther down the line, that involves drag queens and kings. I want to make it multimedia, and I've compiled a list in my head on movies I want to include. Can you think of more? They should ideally have more than just a quick one-off scene of someone in drag, and it would be super bonus points if it involved a straight person having some kind of attachment or personal interactions to the person in drag.

So far I've got:
Priscilla, Queen of the Desert
To Wong Foo...
Sweet November (though that really is only one scene, so it's iffy)
The Birdcage (even though I really hate this movie)
Some Like It Hot
Just One of the Guys
Shakespeare in Love
Twelfth Night (not sure which version)
Yentl (I can barely stand the thought of it, but... there aren't that many movies of women in drag)

It seems like, sadly for my purposes, most of the women in drag movies are period or costume drama, and I wish it weren't so. I realize I can also include Rocky Horror, though I'm not sure I want to. And I'd love to have *good* movies rather than some Z-grade thing that no one knows about -- the more familiar to a wide fannish audience, the better. And please don't say Mrs. Doubtfire. I will have to kill you.


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Aug. 4th, 2009 11:17 pm (UTC)
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:47 am (UTC)
Gar. I can't believe I forgot that. It's one of my favorite movies!
Aug. 4th, 2009 11:21 pm (UTC)
I don't know if this counts, but what was the one with Toni Collette and Nia Vardalos where they were playing drag queens? Connie and Carla, IMDB tells me. Even though they're actually women, there are also actual drag queens in the movie, and David Duchovny falling in love with Nia Vardalos even though he thinks she's a man.
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:48 am (UTC)
I don't think I've ever even heard of that one!
Aug. 4th, 2009 11:23 pm (UTC)
it's not fictional, but how about Paris is Burning?
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:49 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm trying to stick with fictional, and I was hoping to stay with movies, but I may have to include a few TV eps, too. I don't know. I guess a lot will depend on what I can do in the time allotted.
Aug. 4th, 2009 11:26 pm (UTC)
You've got Some like it hot, so I guess 40s/50s is okay? I think Henry and June had a scene with A woman in drag in it, and Marlene Dietrich dressed in drag in some of her movies (image here http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3192231936/nm0000017). If I remember right, Top hat and tails was a very popular look for women in 40s/50s movies.
Aug. 4th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
Re Drag in films
Katharine Hepburn & Cary Grant in "Sylvia Scarlett" - a romantic comedy from 1935. Kate is a female con artist on the run with her father from the police, and is disguised as a male for much of the movie. Set contemporaneously in the 1930s, IIRC, so not periord or costume drama. Most younger folks likely won't recognize the movie, but most should still recognize Hepburn herself.

Photo of Hepburn from movie:
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:50 am (UTC)
Re: Re Drag in films
Oh man, I can't believe I didn't think of that. I completely forgot about it!
Re: Re Drag in films - marycrawford - Aug. 5th, 2009 07:56 am (UTC) - Expand
Aug. 4th, 2009 11:59 pm (UTC)
Does Rent count? Also if you're open to TV shows and reality shows, Buck in United States of Tara, there's a drag queen episode of Project Runway and Rupaul's Drag Race features drag queens.
Aug. 5th, 2009 01:02 am (UTC)
I was hoping to stay away from TV, but I have a feeling I may have to go there for various shows. HIghlander has the famous episode with Duncan as an actor, doing the woman's part.
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:09 am (UTC)
Resources re Drag in Films
There is an extensive listing of movies with transvestite / cross-dressing / drag / transgender / transsexual content available online. Breaks out into time frames (Pre-1950s, then by decade) with very brief content notes. Includes foreign (non-US) films, and animation as well as live action. Animated shorts will have high audience recognition, but the getting hold of the source might be more problematiccal.

Caveat: You'll need to do significant sorting, as the list includes films with incidental content, as well as those with more sigificant content.

Jaye Kaye's Transgender Movie Guide - A-Z index of movies with transvestite / cross-dressing / drag / transgender / transsexual content

Also Hazel Freeman's Transgender Film and Media Guide was excellent, but you'll have to use the Wayback Machine as the site no longer exists.
OLD URL: http://www.hazels-web.co.uk/films/index.php
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:55 am (UTC)
Re: Resources re Drag in Films
Cool, thanks for so much info! I don't think I've ever used Wayback Machine before, I guess this will give me a chance.
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:14 am (UTC)
The Ballad of Little Jo.

Aug. 5th, 2009 12:51 am (UTC)
Hah! Yeah. Although again, period piece! Dammit!!
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:44 am (UTC)
There's Orlando and the high school AU version of Twelfth Night, She's the Man, and The Crying Game. Also that movie about Brandon Teena and the BBC versions of any number of Shakespeare plays. Sounds like an intriguing project!
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:59 am (UTC)
I had wanted to avoid some of the really serious films, especially if they have painful results to the issue of cross dressing or transgender, but Crying Game might be just on the edge of that and still usable. It's definitely not a serious project and I feel like that might be pushing the boundaries of good taste. She's the Man, though, is definitely one of the movies I was trying to remember and couldn't for the life of me come up with the title. Thank you so much!
Aug. 5th, 2009 12:50 am (UTC)
Orlando and well, technically Constantine (although technically Gabriel was supposed to be non-gender - still dressed as a male).
Aug. 5th, 2009 01:01 am (UTC)
I was thinking about Orlando and wondering if that would fit in with what I was doing -- it's not a serious vid in any way. ANd the nature of the "drag" in there is so different from some of the things I was looking at it. But it helps to have a lot of ideas to sort through. What would we do without Swinton?
Aug. 5th, 2009 01:14 am (UTC)
I was going nuts trying to remember this one!
Stage Beauty - about male actors playing women in Shakespeare's time, and the first woman to do it
Aug. 5th, 2009 03:47 am (UTC)
Yes! I was about to suggest it. I love that film :)
Aug. 5th, 2009 01:48 am (UTC)
Will you kill me if I suggest Tootsie? And there's the brief shot of Cary Grant in fluffy housecoat in Bringing Up Baby.

If you want to stray into south east Asia, there's Farewell My Concubine. And Ashes of Time, which just got re-released to DVD and has Brigitte Lin in ancient warrior drag. (I know, they're period pieces...)
Aug. 5th, 2009 07:32 am (UTC)
Tootsie's already on my list! I was thinking of Farewell My Concubine and trying to decide if it's too far on the one side of things from where I want to go. I guess I won't really know until I start it, but now I have a much much bigger list!
Aug. 5th, 2009 01:52 am (UTC)
This might technically be TV, but since it's a BBC miniseries it also has a movie-ish feel to me, *and* it has women dressing in male drag, *and* I think the visual style/tone of it would not be out of place in a humorous approach: "Tipping the Velvet," which is about a lesbian finding her way in the Victorian music-hall world of male impersonators. A period piece, unfortunately for your stated preferences--but still, super-enjoyable and visually striking.
Aug. 5th, 2009 07:33 am (UTC)
Yeah, if I do get into TV stuff, I definitely have to do TTV. Although not that scene with the big scary dildo. ::shudder::

OMG I GET TO SEE YOU IN A COUPLE WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug. 5th, 2009 01:54 am (UTC)
Stage Beauty has Billy Crudup and other actors in drag.

Wild Boys of the Road (1933, directed by William A. Wellman) has Dorothy Coonan dressed as a guy.

National Velvet? Liz Taylor rides The Pie dressed as a boy.

Bosom Buddies: Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari in drag. Heh.

Kinky Boots: Chiwetel Ejiofor in drag.

Bad Education: Gael Garcia Bernal in drag.

You could go super creepy and use Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

Hmm, I know there are some I'm forgetting...
Aug. 5th, 2009 07:34 am (UTC)
It puts the lotion in the basket...

Hey, how could I forget Kinky Boots? Dur!
Aug. 5th, 2009 02:03 am (UTC)
Ah, I knew I forgot something:

Breakfast on Pluto: Cillian Murphy in drag.

You could use Lady Chablis from Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.

There's drag in Hedwig and the Angry Inch, right?
Aug. 5th, 2009 07:36 am (UTC)
Pluto is still on my Netflix queue and I haven't gotten near there yet. Someday. I think with Hedwig it's not really about drag in the way I am thinking of it. And I worry about playing too loose with trans stuff.
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